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Good editing of the raw interview video creates an interesting and entertaining video along with useful metadata

Read about the Video History Project

Editing goals

With more members editing Video History Interviews it is important that there be some level of agreement about the process. The following process is based on the experiences of Barry McNeill with guidance from Dave Scheatzle and  Roger Carter and it is not intended to be cast in concrete.  Little or no attempt is made to explain how the various video editors would accomplish the editing tasks presented.

Not only do new interviews need to be edited but the Video History Project has a backlog of unedited interviews that need to be edited and uploaded to ASURA’s interview collection in the ASU Library's  digital repository (KEEP).

Editing an interview as two desired outcomes: 

  • the creation of an interesting, entertaining video highlighting ASU related stories which requires video editing skills and is the fun outcome and 
  • the development of the interview metadata which requires perseverance and is the not so fun outcome.

View list of interviews needing editing

The following material presents a five step process with guidelines for achieving these two desired outcomes.

  • Step 0 - Get ready to edit
  • Step 1 - Generate an initial interview Table of Contents (ToC) using the raw interview. The initial ToC is used in Step 2
  • Step 2 - Create a draft of final interview ToC. This document is used during the actually editing and will likely change as the editing proceeds.
  • Step 3 - Edit the Interview which presents guidelines about editing expectations. There are minimum requirements as well as some optional edits that can be done depending on the editor's expertise and comfort in editing. 
  • Step 4 - Develop the metadata. Note: before starting it is useful to review Developing metadata.
  • Step 5 - Publish the results to KEEP.

Getting ready to edit requires the following steps.

  1. Step 1 - select interview.
    1. Review the list of interviews that need edits (see button above) and select one.
    2. If you would like guidance contact the Video History chair.
    3. Once an interview is selected let the Video History Data Manager know so that the interview status and interviews needing editing documents can be updated
    4. Create an interview folder and within the folder create folders for the various files you will use, e.g., files for the interview, pictures, title blocks, etc.
  2. Step 2 - download the interview

    The "raw", i.e., unedited, interviews are saved on an ASU Enterprise Dropbox account. Since not everyone has access to this account there are two ways to get the raw interview.
    1. If you do have permission to access the Video History Dropbox account then:
      1. log onto My ASU and select "View More" from the gray menu bar
      2. From the popup menu select "ASU Dropbox" and then on "Continue"
      3. What you see next depends on what personal ASU Dropbox folders you have in addition to the Video History folders. Look for a folder named "Interviews Needing Editing" and click on the folder.
      4. You will now see a set of folders, one for each interview needing editing. Click on the interview you want and then download all the raw interview pieces. The download function is located in a popup menu that is opened by clicking the three dots on the right side of the listed interview.
    2. If you do not have permission to access the Video History Dropbox then contact the Video History Project Editing Chair who will arrange to get you the raw interview files.
  3. Step 3 - check your editing program

    The raw interviews have all been saved as MP4 files so there should be no problem getting them to load in your editor. If your editor cannot load the video, contact the Video History Chair.

Before you begin editing the interview it is important to know and document what is in the interview. This is one of the more time consuming and least enjoyable parts of the entire process, but it is the foundation upon which much of the editing is built. The goal is to generate an ordered list of all questions asked followed by all the stores associated with each question asked. The start time for item in the list is added to each entry, i.e., a Table of Contents for the interview  The document might look something like the following:

  1. Question 1 (@hr:min:sec) - level 1 heading
    1. Story 1 (@hr:min:sec) - level 2 heading
    2.  Story 2 (@hr:min:sec) - level 2 heading
  2. Question 2 (@hr:min:sec) - level 1 heading
    1. Story1 (@hr:min:sec) - level 2 heading
  3. etc.

Once this initial Table of Contents (ToC) is completed you have a complete list of the major topics (questions asked) and the stories related to the questions. The times help you locate the material during the editing process..

There are a variety of ways to generate this ToC but they all boil down to:

  • listening to the interview from start to finish
  • As you listen to the interview
    • stop the tape each time the interviewer asks a new question. note the topic and time and
    • then stop the tape each time there is a new story related to the question asked and note the story topic and starting time of the new story'

Note 1    Try to keep the story descriptions short but informative enough that you will remember what was being discussed when you go back and edit

Note 2    One of the issues you will need to address is: When is a story actually a story. Not everything discussed by the interviewee needs or deserves to be in the ToC. You will find the interviews are full of short little side stories that should not be included in the ToC. It will be up to you to decide whether the story is worthy of a ToC entry. There is no rule but stories less than a minute long are getting into the questionable area

 

Before you start adding title blocks or moving parts of the interview around you need a plan for what you want the final interview to look like, i.e., you need to update the outline you generated in Step 1 to reflect the edits you plan on making. The outline you created in Step 1 is the starting point for your thinking about how the desired look for the interview. As a first step in updating the initial ToC review the outline looking for the following possible edits:

  • reduce the length of long story/question titles without losing story content
  • rewrite the questions (level 1 rows) as statements about the stories to follow
  • add a new level 1 row when you find a sequence of stories that have a common thread
  • remove stores from the outline if on reflection the stories are too short or add little to the question being discussed.
  • reword any entries that would benefit from a rewording now that you better understand what the story is about and how it fits into the entire interview.
  • If you find duplicate stories or story topics either:
    • delete one of the stories or
    • move the duplicate stories together
  • add draft section title blocks
  • (optional) If a major topic is discussed at different places in the interview (often items at the end of the interview add substance to a question asked earlier) move the item from its location in the initial ToC to its new location in the draft interview ToC.

Once you’ve completed your review and updated your outline, you now have a document which will help keep you on track as you do the actual editing.

Creating an interesting, entertaining video, highlighting stories about ASU can require editing ranging from simply adding title blocks to massive reorganization of the stories. What editing gets done is a function of the editor’s skills and interests as well as the quality of the “raw” interview. There are minimum required edits, shown; below. Some optional edits are also listred. The material column accordion gives more information about each of these edits.

Minimum editing tasks

  • Add Section Title Blocks
  • Remove Inappropriate or Unwanted Material (if present)
  • Remove Excessive Dead Air (if present)
  • Create Smooth Transitions as necessary when interview material is removed or moved
Optional editing task
  • Add pictures
  • Add story captions
  • Change story order

See draft editing guidelines

Once you have completed the editing you can complete the generation of the Abstract, Table of Contents, Subject, and Series metadata.

Read how to develop metadata

Publishing the interview to the digital repository (KEEP) requires several steps.

  • Step 1 - create final interview video

    Once you have completed your editing you need to generate MP4 file(s) of the edited interview(s).  If you have created parts use the part name as the file name, e.g., EarlyYears.MP4. You should create the MP4 files with the highest resolution possible.
  • Step 2 - upload interview to dropbox

    Save the file to the project's Dropbox.
    • If you have access to the Dropbox follow the login process given in Step 0 and upload the interview(s) to the "Interviews for KEEP folder.
    • If you do not have access you will net to contact the VHP chair for assistance.
  • Step 3 - review

    All edited videos should be reviewed by one of the Video History Editors to make sure it meets the project standards. After uploading the interview, let the VHP chaird know the interview is ready for review, The metadata as well as the interview should be reviewed. IF the review turns up an problems you will need to address the issues and re-upload the revised version to the Dropbox

    Read the Interview review checklist.
  • Step 4 - uploading to KEEP

    When the review has been completed send the metadata to the VHP chair and let them know the interview is ready for KEEP.  The VHP chair sends the metadata to the VHP Document Database Manager who will correctly format the metadata as necessary start the process of getting the interview and metadata posted on KEEP .

 

Editing tasks

The following material discusses a variety of editing tasks, some required, some optional. The material presents goals, requirements and other information about the edit but does not attempt to explain how to do the editing.

  • Goal: 

    Make the interview easier to watch
  • Definition: 

    A title blocks is a full screen presentation of information about what is coming up in the video.
  • Requirements
    • be displayed long enough that a person can comfortably read the entire block
    • have the same format throughout the interview
    • be located within the safe area (according to Roger Carter all video editing software has a safe area grid that can be shown on the preview monitor to make sure that captions / graphics do not fall outside the grid lines
    • have a beginning and ending title block (see Table below for content)
  • Internal Locations

    There should be title blocks at the start of major sections in the interview. However, you need to be careful not to overuse title blocks making the interview choppy. If you have too many major sections consider lumping several major sections together under a super heading, e.g., “Pre-ASU Years”, and then have title blocks for the super headings. If you decided to use super headings, you will need to update your outline by inserting some level 0 rows into the outline to show the super heading names.
  • Insertion Method
    • Superimpose the title blocks on the existing interview (picture disappears but audio continues)
    • Cut the video and insert the title block between the two parts of the video (no video or audio)
    • A combination of the two with the title block overlaying the first part of the upcoming video
  • Block Content
Beginning Title Block Final Title Block Internal Title Blocks
ASU Retirees Association

Video History Project

Interview with

Interviewee Name

Interview Date
ASURA Video History Crew

Interview Date

Interview with

Interviewee Name

Interviewer – Name

Camera – Name

Audio – Name

Director – Name

Video Editor – Name

Chair of Video History Project - Name

Section Title

  Story 1

  Story 2

  Story 3

etc.

 

  • Goal

    Keep the focus on ASU
  • Examples of Inappropriate or Unwanted Material
    • Some of the interviews are very long and include stories that are not closely related to ASU or other stories in the interview. There is no exact definition of "too long" but final interviews more than ninety minutes are pushing the envelop. Note, while you may remove these stories from the main interview you can consider crating a separate accompanying video that includes these extra, non ASU stories.
    • Some interviews have material that is probably fine among friends but should not be part of the final product, e.g., a negative comment about someone – “did you know he lost his commission?”. Remember that the interview will be available to the public.
    • Often interviews end with an “open question” period during which there is give and take between the interviewee and those doing the interviewing / recording. There are often interesting nuggets, but the material is often messy. You could just leave this material, but it makes for a fuzzy ending to the interview and you may want to just delete some/ all of the ending material.

  • Goal

    Keep the interview moving, i.e., tighten up the interview
  • Definition of Dead Air
    • Ums & Ahs
    • Long Pauses
  • Caution

    ​​​​​​​Removal of ums, ahs, and dead space certainly tightens up the interview but you need to use your discretion. Removal of all these items may adversely change the character of the interviewee. The way a person talks is an integral part of who the person is. If the interviewee is actively moving / weaving while speaking, removal of these dead spots can lead to a choppy looking interview.

  • Goal

    Smooth out the video / reduce the choppiness
  • Definition

    Technique to smooth over moderate to major abrupt changes in the video
  • When to Use
    • When pieces of the video are removed
    • When pieces of the video are moved
  • Method
    • Use video editor program's supplied video transitions, e.g., fade to black
    • Mask with a picture or other graphic

  • Goal

    Enhance the quality of the interview
  • Why Done
    • To show a picture of what the interviewee is talking about
    • To mask undesirable piece of the video, e.g., mask rubbing an eye
  • Requirements
    • be displayed long enough that a person can appreciate the picture
    • generally masks the entire video

  • Goal

    Enhance the ease of watching the video
  • Description

    Story captions are short lines of text that appear at the start of each new story, These are generally the second level items in the working ToC and most recent title block.
  • Requirements
    • be located within the bottom center of the screens safe area (all video editing software has a safe area grid that can be shown on the preview monitor to make sure the captions do not fall outside the grid lines
    • be displayed for about 10 seconds
    • use text that is printed on an appropriately colored rectangle / matte that is slightly larger than the text
    • use a text font that is a simple modern font, e.g., Arial Normal
    • have the same format for all captions

  • Goal

    Bring similar stories and story topics together
  • Process
    • Review and update your interview ToC to reflect the changes you want to make. Some of the possible changes are:
      • Moving material from the end, open mic, session to an appropriate location in the body of the interview (common).
      • Rearranging the stories so they are chronologically correct; do this if if it makes the interview flow more naturally.
      • Moving a story to is more appropriate location' this happens when the interviewee circles back with a story better related to an earlier question. 
      • Moving side stories, new stories that are inserted in the middle of another story, to a section of the interview that addresses the sort of issues addressed in the side story.
    • Use the video editor to move the pieces of the interview to their new locations

  • Goal

    Make it easier for a view to find a particular story
  • Discussion

    While it is possible to break the interview up into a set of smaller interviews there is not much reason to do this. The interview Table of Contents in the Digital Repository has the starting time for all the stories so a user can quickly move to the location of interest. The one exception would be an interview that had a significant amount of non-ASU related material removed and you wanted to keep this material as a supplementary video.
  • Each separate part of the interview will need to have a Table of Contents;  the times shown will be for the time within the each of the parts.

To see if the interview has a video clip check the list of interviews on ASURA Video History webpage, It no clip exists select a 3 to 5 minutes section of the interview that you think would make an interesting  clip and then follow the directions for uploading to YouTube (Manage YouTube Video) and adding the click to the interviewee material (Add-Edit Video Interview)

 


Updated November 16, 2023 by BW McNeill